My Response to a Mad christian carnist, Who Used the Bible to "Justify" Murdering Animals…

Well, I do agree, that there are, in the World, some extremely dumb idiots, who also happen to be Vegan… I mean, Vegans ARE human beings!! And, as with ANY human group, some WOULD be idiots… though WAAAAAAAAAY less, than there are carnists who are also dumb and idiots. 🙂

15 years ago, during the second half of 2004, I did try to go Vegan; however, I just happened to come across some TRULY fucked-up people, who also HAPPENED to be Vegan activists… while ALSO promoting hatred towards Cats, because – GODS FORBID!!!! – Cats, unlike humans, DO need meat in order to survive. So, they advocated abandoning Kittens and exterminating the Feline Species… so, most Naturally, as a devoted Cat-Admirer, I ran away screaming from Veganism and it took me AN ENTIRE DECADE, until May 2015(!!) = after I came to know many good, decent and sane Vegans – to FINALLY become Vegan myself.

So, quite possibly, THOSE were the Vegans whom you knew… (which explains, from where did you take that BULLSHIT, that "Vegans cannot have pets"…) however, you must indeed get into your mind, that IT ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT MATTER, if some Vegans were not nice to you, or even if they speak bullshit – since Veganism is NOT about "identify with other Vegans", but rather, it is about not murdering, nor abusing, any other beings.

There are also bad and antipathetic people opposing rape, torture, sweatshops, or caging minorities in concentration-camps; would you go and support all those horrors, JUST BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAMPAIGNING AGAINST THEM WERE NOT NICE TO YOU (OR SPOKE NONSENSE)?!??

And, besides, there ARE lots of Cool and Great and Nice and Friendly Vegans, also here on youtube; one just needs to look… 🙂 Here are some:

to name just a few. 🙂

I, for one, dedicate A LOT of my mind and efforts NEVER to step on any innocent person, with a STRONG emphasis on THESE cute little LOVELIES:

(who, I believe, ARE Sentient Beings and do possess Intelligence, too.)

Now, as for the bible… as a non-religious Israeli of Jewish descent, I do not know the Jesus-stuff of the "new testament", but I sure DO know the bible. And in Genesis 1, 29, it does clearly say, that "הִנֵּה נָתַתִּי לָכֶם אֶת-כָּל-עֵשֶׂב זֹרֵעַ זֶרַע אֲשֶׁר עַל-פְּנֵי כָל-הָאָרֶץ, וְאֶת-כָּל-הָעֵץ אֲשֶׁר-בּוֹ פְרִי-עֵץ, זֹרֵעַ זָרַע: לָכֶם יִהְיֶה, לְאָכְלָה" = "Here I gave you all the seed-making grass upon the land, and all the fruit-making, seed-making trees: for you they will be to eat" (at a free translation) = meaning, humans were made to be Vegans. We are to REIGN OVER the other Animals, but most CERTAINLY not thinking of them as "our food"…

Later on, after the flood = when the very first thing Noah does, is sacrificing an innocent Animal – God kind of think "Oh, fuck; well, what am I to do, YET ANOTHER flood and kill him TOO? Bother… ho, well, the nature of humans is bad, nothing to do about it… I have created a fucked-up being here, what can I do; I shall not make any more floods on his account"… and, from then on, he gives man laws, to try and reduce the damage – while making it clear, via his prophets, that he expects humans to stop their bad habits and go fully Vegan again in the remote and distant future.

And, indeed: the "justification" those bloody christians had had, for keeping people of African descent as slaves, comes from a story right next to it, where that very same Noah curses his son `Ham and decrees he shall forever be "a slaves' slave" to his brothers, Shem (the ancestor of Arabs and Jews) and Yefeth (the ancestor of the European peoples).

So: you can find there a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more valid case, for renewing slavery (and maintaining the racist views of the kkk psychopaths), than for enslaving ANY non-human Animal for food…

And, of course: on a Plant-based diet, there IS much more food available for everybody, so a Vegan World = no more starving children, too.


Written by Oded Kedem

A Vegan, Nudist, Ecological and Atheist Writer and Philosopher from Rehovoth, israel.

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